Can't we all just get along?!? MD vs SNES - The Bear and Badger

EvilRedEye

tigerswiftly wrote:

I think the only argument we can bring to the table now that could rival this is Star Wars vs Star Trek.

Well it's Star Trek, obviously.

tigersgogrrr

I agree.

optimark_prime

I don't.

tigersgogrrr

This argument is somewhat lacking in the vitriol of the SNES vs MD argument.

Moot_Geeza

Dexter Fletcher era Gamesmaster or Bad Influence?

optimark_prime

Moot_Geeza wrote:

Dexter Fletcher era Gamesmaster or Bad Influence?

Or the Sky(?) show with Big Boy Barry?

Rev

Bollockoff wrote:

When's the annual SNES fan culling going ahead? A hound to catch the hound known as Revel.

Bring it on beard boy.

Rev

EvilRedEye wrote:

tigerswiftly wrote:

I think the only argument we can bring to the table now that could rival this is Star Wars vs Star Trek.

Well it's Star Trek, obviously.

New star trek is better than new prequel starwars.

Old star wars was better than star trek.

Billy

I think we should define some more rules in order to take this truly serious. Everyone keeps saying SNES vs MD and stating that the SNES had the best jrpgs, but it didn't at all, the SFC did, the SNES had fuck all. So are we considering everything from every region or just PAL?

retroking1981

Many of us have touched on liking one more than the other because it's the one we owned as a kid which is a perfectly good reason. Because of that I'm gonna go for a different approach.

The following is a list of games for SNES that I actually played back in the day and have very fond memories of. That means some great games are missing such as DKC3 because of only playing it in recent years. Some games aren't even good and some are games that are better on something else, yes even the Mega Drive...

SNES:
ActRaiser
Alien³
Axelay
Batman Returns
Cannon Fodder
Castlevania: Dracula X
Contra III: The Alien Wars
Cybernator
Desert Strike: Return to the Gulf
Disney's Aladdin
Disney's Goof Troop
Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
Doom
F-Zero
F1 ROC: Race of Champions
FIFA International Soccer
Final Fight
Final Fight 2
Firepower 2000
Flashback: The Quest for Identity
Gradius III
International Superstar Soccer Deluxe
Joe & Mac
John Madden Football '93
Killer Instinct
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
The Magical Quest starring Mickey Mouse
Mortal Kombat II
NBA Jam
NBA Live 95
NHL '94
Olympic Summer Games: Atlanta 1996
Out of This World
PGA Tour Golf
Pilotwings
Pushover
Rock n' Roll Racing
Saturday Night Slam Masters
The Simpsons: Bart's Nightmare
Star Fox
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Street Fighter II: The World Warrior
Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting
Street Racer
Striker
Stunt Race FX
Super Castlevania IV
Super Ghouls'n Ghosts
Super Mario All-Stars
Super Mario Kart
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Super Metroid
Super Punch-Out!!
Super Smash TV
Super Soccer
Super Star Wars
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers
Super Tennis
Syndicate
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: Turtles in Time
Theme Park
Tiny Toon Adventures: Buster Busts Loose
Top Gear
U.N. Squadron
Wolfenstein 3D
WWF Royal Rumble
WWF Super WrestleMania
Zombies Ate My Neighbors

On the flip side the following is a list of Mega Drive games I was massively jealous of:

MD:
Altered Beast
Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse
Castlevania: Bloodlines (Bayonetta 2 has nothing on the way I felt about this)
Comix Zone
Contra: Hard Corps
Decap Attack
Dynamite Headdy
FIFA International Soccer
Golden Axe
Golden Axe II
Gunstar Heroes
Hellfire
John Madden Football
Mercs
Mortal Kombat
NHL Hockey
Quackshot starring Donald Duck
Ristar
Road Rash
Road Rash II
Rocket Knight Adventures
Shadow Dancer
Shadow of the Beast
Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Space Harrier II
Speedball 2
Streets of Rage
Streets of Rage 2
Strider
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Hyperstone Heist
Toughman Contest
Thunder Force II
ToeJam & Earl
Vectorman
World of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck
Wrestle War

Not only is the SNES list bigger but if I was to make a list of 16Bit games I've played since or intend to play the SNES wins there to.

Both of these consoles are easily in my top 5 ever, I love them both. Good times!!!

If you don't like my list or disagree with something come at me and I'll explain why it's there.

retroking1981

Moot_Geeza wrote:

Dexter Fletcher era Gamesmaster or Bad Influence?

Easily Bad Influence

JonB

Billy_Hologram wrote:

I think we should define some more rules in order to take this truly serious. Everyone keeps saying SNES vs MD and stating that the SNES had the best jrpgs, but it didn't at all, the SFC did, the SNES had fuck all. So are we considering everything from every region or just PAL?

I used to get a lot of US stuff (that was SNES, right?). Actually, a lot of the Enix games made it to PAL eventually, and so did Secret of Mana. FF3/6 and Chrono were the main US only ones. If we went for Jap stuff as well there's also Dragon Quest, which nobody has mentioned.

So yeah, Square and Enix were the difference in terms of RPGs, but depending on what you could get your hands on.

retroking1981

Part 1 is him waffling a lot, 2 is where its at

WorKid

Is that what yank SNESs look like? Ugly things.

ChopperByrne

Ugly indeed, but full speed and no borders. Their controllers don't have the multicoloured buttons either.

retroking1981

2nd model was nicer

optimark_prime

Mega Drive is a better name then Genesis.

optimark_prime

The video was fairly entertaining, but the backwards compatible section was ropey!

If you can't judge the MD 6-button pad, then you shouldn't allow some dodgy 3rd party adaptor.

retroking1981

I thought that, I'm currently watching this which is touching on that very point

Moot_Geeza

optimark_prime wrote:

If you can't judge the MD 6-button pad, then you shouldn't allow some dodgy 3rd party adaptor.

The same point I made when I first saw it. BIAS.

retroking1981

Some interesting early SMW images:

optimark_prime

I've no problem with bias, that's exactly why this thread exists

metascrawl

Moot & Yoss - What I have is the Yinlips ydpg19. The screen is great, the sound is good and surprisingly loud, the face buttons and d-pad are irritatingly noisy when pressed but otherwise good. The analogue is perfect.

That JXD gamepad thing is certainly more powerful - the yinlips does N64 okay but I don't think it would run PS2 roms - although I must say very much doubt the JXD would do so completely unproblematically.

The main draw of the yinlips for me was cost really - got one for £50 on ebay, so about half the price of that JXD. So not nearly as flash as that big white dual-core beast, but a very affordable way to play 16 bit roms which was mainly what I was after.

If you do get one of these Chinese handhelds you'd be advised to *never* do firmware updates on them, as they do tend to brick.

Do check out the obscure handhelds blog for quality writing on this sort of thing.

dynamiteReady

retroking1981 wrote:

Some interesting early SMW images:

Awesome post!

mistercrayon

It looks a lot like smb3!

retroking1981

Yeah a lot of the early sprites were from Mario 3, I think I remember reading it was also originally for the NES itself but production soon moved over the the SFC.

Here's some more:

optimark_prime

I think I prefer SMB3 to SMW.

(both excellent games though)

Roujin

monkey wrote:

Beat em ups is the one genre Snes loses on. It wins convincingly on everything else. Prove me wrong.

Killer Instinct off the top of my head. Also Turtles Tournament Fighter was shite on the MD due to the 3 button controller, as was SF2.

I had neither console as a nipper, but played both a lot at friends houses, SNES is all round the better round console - that said Streets of Rage 2 and Gunstar Heroes have almost enough epic win between them to deal with most of the SNES catalogue.

EDIT: Oh right, I'm well late with this observation. Fuck you thread.

hylian_elf

Billy_Hologram wrote:

I think we should define some more rules in order to take this truly serious. Everyone keeps saying SNES vs MD and stating that the SNES had the best jrpgs, but it didn't at all, the SFC did, the SNES had fuck all. So are we considering everything from every region or just PAL?

I thought it was a general vs. question rather than forumites or PAL. By that I mean that I took the question to be which console was better regardless of what language you spoke and where you lived etc. So all games count.

hylian_elf

mk64 wrote:

Elf on a side note. I know your methodology isn't to everyone's liking but briefly looking at the lists how does the n64 hold up against the ps1? OoT vs ffvii I suppose.

I'll check when I get home. I do remember seeing quite a few PS1 games; but N64 games tend to be few but highest up. I don't think there's any question that OoT is number 1 when considering average position in these lists.

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