Culturally though, yourself and Tempy keep pushing this 'bigger picture' idea, completely neglecting the fact that a mixed race Royal family is one of the greatest symbolic gestures we've seen in our time
Paul the sparky wrote:It'll be alt-right on the night.
LivDiv wrote:Yeah, but can the Queen uppercut her head off now?
mistercrayon wrote:I feel like it’s basically an unwinnable trap at this point in the situation of making a mistake? In which case the trick is always to never make a mistake or do anything which could be construed as a mistake?!
Moot_Geeza wrote:He was probably in a bit of a flap when he made initial apologies/responses. I took it that he meant his mind isn't diseased (regarding any intent), and then the barell thing was just shots fired on the way down, which is probably more of a natural thing to do than totally nailing an apology for something this sensitive at the first pass.
dynamiteReady wrote:LivDiv wrote:Yeah, but can the Queen uppercut her head off now?
She'd make a great Mortal Kombat character. Like Goro. Only she's older, has more arms, and they're all in our pockets...
I'm not sure how that fits into any argument about this at all. You may get fired for verbally abusing colleagues at work, yes.dynamiteReady wrote:Say if a colleague at work has cancer, for example, and as a 'joke', on Slack, on the general chat channel, or on your company wide email group you raise: "Don't show that bald headed cunt any sympathy. Haha." Even in a stream of other well wishing messages, and even if you know the guy well, there's a good chance you'll get fired. That's the 'common sense' side of it.
Well I've only written one post of any substance, but OK. But I don't see the connection you've made there at all. Danny Baker hasn't undermined whatever symbolic value there is in a mixed race royal marriage.Culturally though, yourself and Tempy keep pushing this 'bigger picture' idea, completely neglecting the fact that a mixed race Royal family is one of the greatest anti racism gestures we've seen in our time. Possibly the clearest symbol of a change in culture, at least since Obama. So perhaps zealously guarding that is more valuable than you think.
You've lost me there.No one's even taken the security issue into account. Can you imagine the number of death threats the family have received from domestic enemies, since Meghan has married into the family?
Because the BBC are massive hypocrites?And, interestingly, no one has bought up Alan Sugar yet. His comments can possibly be seen as less harmful than Danny's (overlooking intent). But they were no less stupid, and he pretty much got away with that... Why do you think that is?
Yossarian wrote:Frankly it doesn’t matter, if it’s open to interpretation, you’ve fucked up the apology.
Andy wrote:Yossarian wrote:Frankly it doesn’t matter, if it’s open to interpretation, you’ve fucked up the apology.
Well, I take it all back. A man definitely deserves to lose his job over this.
Yossarian wrote:Baker’s initial apology was poor and could certainly be taken as suggesting that seeing racism in his joke was the product of a diseased mind. His second apology dismissed the situation as being his turn in the barrel rather than reflecting on his own actions and how that might seem to others. He then went on to start joking about the situation.
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