poprock wrote:

I worry that we’re heading beyond fun blockbuster stuff towards crazy complex comics stuff, and that Marvel could lose a lot of its audience going too far into geek territory. Me included. Hope they can prove me wrong though.

I thought this about Iron Lad. Is that really going to fly (HAHA) with casual fans of Iron Man?

It's one thing introducing quirky (but still human-archetypal) characters like GotG and getting people to like them, quite another replacing the hugely successful and beloved characters from the previous films with weird time-travelling facsimiles.

Nothing lasts forever, even Marvel money-making machines, but it's going to be interesting to see them try to pull this off

Diluted Dante wrote:

I highly doubt any of the Disney Plus stuff will be necessary to watch the films. It's there to flesh things out for people who want that. Anyone who watches "that new Marvel film innit" will be fine.

It wasn't necessary to watch Clone Wars to watch Solo but there was still a viscerally negative reaction to plot points from it turning up in Solo.

I think Iron Man popped up at the end of Solo.

Diluted Dante wrote:

I highly doubt any of the Disney Plus stuff will be necessary to watch the films. It's there to flesh things out for people who want that. Anyone who watches "that new Marvel film innit" will be fine.

Yeah, my concern is more that ‘that new Marvel film innit’ will be well complex and geeky itself. I tapped out around Civil War and Ultron, feeling they got too wrapped up in ‘X that happened to Y in film Z’ (although, admittedly, Marvel really came through with Infinity War and Endgame. Loved those.)

I admit, I fell asleep during Solo. All sorts of characters could have randomly appeared for all I noticed.

monkey wrote:

Diluted Dante wrote:

I didn't watch Solo (or Clone Wars for that matter). What was the issue in that?

Darth Maul shows up out of nowhere. Unless you’ve seen some cartoon or other where he comes back, you would have last seen him cut in half and falling down a giant hole.

Oh right. I mean, killing him was dumb, so great. Did they just act like nothing had happened, or did someone ask him "arent you dead?"

Yeah, it didn’t matter at all. And the film he died in was so long ago nobody remembered anyway.

monkey wrote:

It’s only a blink and you’ll miss it thing. He turns up on some hologram projection talking to, erm, someone. Setting up a sequel that won’t happen.

Ok. I would really hope Marvel are not that stupid.

Pop, its not that we didn't remember, we tried to forget.

To be fair the Maul bit is right at the end (post credits?) and if you didn't know he survived from the cartoons it would have been a suprise but one that would be expected to be explained later.

Yeh Loki was good.
It felt just like a Dr Who series to me, especially with all the English actors in it.
The yanks love a bit of Who don’t they? Well they’ve kinda got their own now.

Interestingly i have just read that Loki was intended to run as a 12 episode1 shot and done. But covid fucked that up. So the stories already written just needs filming.

And that means the finale wasn’t the actual finale.

So a lort mors you know who…….yas

So have skipped all the posts and binged the last 4 episodes of Loki and it is easily the best series Disney have done with the Marvel franchise.

It had a coherent plot that made sense within its own rules, solid acting from all the cast (except child Loki), a well realised “enemy” at the end, and a great character arc for the Hiddleston.

I could fault some of it. The action, for Marvel, was quite weak and there was some dodgy dialogue in places but overall this felt like a quality show and definitely glad I wasn’t watching it week to week. Roll on season 2.

I also think I’ve fallen in love with Slyvi (was that with an e?).

Now I’ll go back and no doubt read about how shit it really is.

Just realised that the end of Loki series one means the overall storyline for the next MCU phase will basically be the plot of Lego Marvel Super Heroes 2.

Why not? He did the voice for Darth Maul without playing the character.

Everything should replace someones voice with Peter Serafinowicz.