Funkstain wrote:If anything an autocratic authoritarian gov may be the only way to achieve the actual changes needed, right?
Funkstain wrote:So that's good, we now have more than two paths to success:
- Grassroots leading to critical mass leading to regulation and laws and capital change of focus
- Magic
- Violent overthrow of power structures (and establishment of...something else more pleasant and environmentally friendly?)
I prefer the former! But as you say not going fast enough and may not even be achievable in time.
I don't believe in magic.
And violence is definitely gonna happen at some point but it will be haphazard and nasty and I'm not sure there's a plan in place for what happens after you flood the coalmine / destroy the factory / kill Bezos
monkey wrote:But the only way you can really do that is through the Greens. Which creates the problem of splitting the progressive vote and letting in more Tories. It needs a climate Farage. Some attention-grabbing, outspoken, ball sack that a critical mass of people can form around, giving Labour no choice but to get serious about it.
Or it could even come from the right.
https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1589607555134734341
Diluted Dante wrote:If the Greens start picking up more and more council seats, then Labour will start paying more attention to environmental issues. They shouldn't need to though, this should be freebies to Labour.
poprock wrote:I think the theory is that our politicians have no backbone. They’ll only do something if they think it will help them get re-elected next time around. So they’ll only do something about the climate crisis if we, the voting public, show that we give a shit first.
The head of one of the world's biggest oil companies has been named to lead the COP28 global climate talks in Dubai
acemuzzy wrote:The head of one of the world's biggest oil companies has been named to lead the COP28 global climate talks in Dubai
But of course
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