Racist - The Bear and Badger

Facewon

Great twitter thread on the issues and history..

https://twitter.com/BenjaminMillar/status/1279325774131036167?s=19

hunk

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/7/7/21293259/police-racism-violence-ideology-george-floyd

A deep dive into internal (US) police culture and it's as bad as we theorised it to be and more. It's not a few bad apples, the whole system is rotten to the core.
It needs a serious rethink and restructuring. Above all it needs a new 'culture'.

mistercrayon

I always found the “few bad apples” metaphor really laughable in this context. As the guy points out the whole point of that proverb is to illustrate the whole fucking lot gets rot.

dynamiteReady

I really hope Americans see through this stupid Trump tactic, and avoid voting for Kanye.

I'd rather see people abstain than split the vote on this shit.

Kanye championing anti-abortion and anti-vaccination?
It's clear where this plan has come from, and what the intention is.

GooberTheHat

Well if that's his policy platform then he will be taking votes away from Trump more than Biden surely?

g.man

Kanye West? Sounds like another dangerous clown to me.

hunk

Yeezy is a talented musician but other than that he's just another narcissist entering the political arena of tv cult personalities. A Republican candidate that fits the bill despite the skin tone. He'll have to convince all those rich republican white people and the tea party first though.

Good luck with that Kanye!

dynamiteReady

GooberTheHat wrote:

Well if that's his policy platform then he will be taking votes away from Trump more than Biden surely?

Not quite, imo.

My suspicion is some that muppet in the Trump campaign team is looking for a patsy to help dissolve the vote of young voters and black voters (and the obvious intersection).

Kanye is perfect, as he has the right profile, and he needs the money.

GooberTheHat

running for office is incredibly expensive. Who is going to donate to Kanye? Is Kanye even relevant for young black voters? I would hope they would see his candidacy for what it is, unsubstantial and irrelevant.

hunk

dynamiteReady wrote:

Well if that's his policy platform then he will be taking votes away from Trump more than Biden surely?

Not quite, imo. My suspicion is some that muppet in the Trump campaign team is looking for a patsy to help dissolve the vote of young voters and black voters (and the obvious intersection). Kanye is perfect, as he has the right profile, and he needs the money.

That sounds like a very viable Republican strategy. Although I doubt he needs the money. It's more of an ego boost.

It's a shit strategy to counter BLM but it certainly fits the current conservative mindset.

GurtTractor

I just think that having a singular leader with a grand title is a flawed idea, it's always going to attract these fuckheads.

Roujin

GooberTheHat wrote:

running for office is incredibly expensive. Who is going to donate to Kanye? Is Kanye even relevant for young black voters? I would hope they would see his candidacy for what it is, unsubstantial and irrelevant.

He's a billionaire.

Kow

He's always complaining about being broke. Maybe you're thinking of that other black guy - Jaz Z.

hunk

Kanye's originaly a middle class black guy. He doesn't know what broke means despite acting all ghetto.

mistercrayon

Kow wrote:

He's always complaining about being broke. Maybe you're thinking of that other black guy - Jaz Z.

Yeah he had no money so Kim Kardashian gave him $50m from App money. She might be a billionaire.

Roujin

Yeah I'm just making up his net worth for the bants.

nick_md

1.3b USD apparently

mistercrayon

I have no idea. How is it possible!

Roujin

Fuck it's almost like he owns his own wildly successful clothing line or something.

GooberTheHat

Roujin wrote:

GooberTheHat wrote:

running for office is incredibly expensive. Who is going to donate to Kanye? Is Kanye even relevant for young black voters? I would hope they would see his candidacy for what it is, unsubstantial and irrelevant.

He's a billionaire.

dynamiteReady wrote:

GooberTheHat wrote:

Well if that's his policy platform then he will be taking votes away from Trump more than Biden surely?

Not quite, imo.

My suspicion is some that muppet in the Trump campaign team is looking for a patsy to help dissolve the vote of young voters and black voters (and the obvious intersection).

Kanye is perfect, as he has the right profile, and he needs the money.

I was just responding to this.

Kow

I think once you get to the big bucks you can't stop it rolling in. It's what it seems like anyway.

Roujin

Ftr I'm with Dyno on West being a very convenient tool for republicans to use to try and split voters away from the democrats. It's extremely pathetic and incredibly racist and I'm kind of sad to see Kanye willingly letting himself be used like this because he's blind to anything other than his own ambitions these days.

LivDiv

The bonus with Kanye is that no matter what cunt thing he does you will be 3 comments away from "yeah but his music is good" which rapidly turns into listing his albums in order. Thus forgetting the cunt thing he did.

I bet this happened all the time with Reagan. "Reagan's war on drugs is really a war on black communities" " Yeah but I love Bedtime for Bunzo".

dynamiteReady

hunk wrote:

Although I doubt he needs the money. It's more of an ego boost...

Lo and behold...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53324891

(Summary - He's claiming an abnormally high US furlough loan. Doesn't completely dismiss arguments against him needing money, but he's not adverse to it)

hunk

Money trickles up...

mistercrayon

Roujin wrote:

Fuck it's almost like he owns his own wildly successful clothing line or something.

For sure: but really only one brand that is intrinsically linked to another company.

Think about being a billionaire without actually having done any work or whatever. He just shown up, slaps his name on a weird looking shoe and - Kablam Billionaire. It’s ridiculous.

Roujin

WAHT!?

Roujin

Ftr, that is exactly the opposite of how it went down.

Kanye West was in the frame for the style director at LV before they gave the position to Virgil Abloh.

I'm not a Kanye fan, but he absolutely has established ties to the fashion industry and after producing a bajillion record sales, took that fame and used it to launch Yeezy.

Tempy

Surely all these big business are pushing for government financial help to secure their current level of personal profit rather than actually maintain jobs - that’s just a handy side effect. Many of these people could afford to pay out of their own pocket, but that level of wealth inequality causes them to obsess on making the figure bigger. Does Ye really need a loan to play his employees? Doubtful, between him and Kim they could easily pay. She’s not withholding wages from sweatshop workers cos herc has flow is hurting. It’s just pure greed. The last bit is spot on: he doesn’t need cash, we wants it. Wealth fucks your brain.

hunk

Government should be minimalised. Unless they hand out cash obv.

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