God that tilly decision is utterly stupid and moronic. It just goes to show, that so little time has been spent developing the other bridge crew characters, that you cant name anyone who should be the . Stanits, tilly, saru, burnham and georgiou are the only characters i can name and we are in season 3.

Oh dont get me started on .

It could be argued we had five other series that stuck to the familiar bridge crew formula and Discovery with its initial non-captain focus is trying to be something different.

I didn’t hate the latest episode, despite so much Burnham focus yet again.

Dinostar77 wrote:

Also where is the brainy super smoking hot character ala Seven of Nine, Jadzia Dax, T'Pol.

Without sounding like I'm getting all political, there's an obvious move towards 'normal' looking female characters (similar to the move to plus size models in fashion), even to the point of actively adding physical imperfections (two female bridge crew members with cybernetic repairs to injury?). I'm going to avoid the word 'woke', because I think it's an unhelpful term that oversimplifies a complex discussion, but there's a lot of what's associated with it in this show.

The guys are still largely eye candy, though.

I genuinely don't have a problem with any of this, by the way. It's a nice change from how traditionally female stars had to largely be classically beautiful, but male character actors could be more unconventional looking. I do have an issue with how there's a noted rise in male mental illness resulting from unreasonable physical expectations. Seriously - allow both men and women to look 'normal', don't just reverse the status quo.

Anyhow, back to Trek...

Nerd girl Trekkies fancying Saru is a ‘thing’ apparently.

poprock wrote:

Nerd girl Trekkies fancying Saru is a ‘thing’ apparently.

An he played quite a charming Abe Sapien. Hellboy was a great 'ugly guys have hearts, too' movie.

Ditto shagging Sally Hawkins in The Shape of Water. Weird hot chicks dig monsters.

Definitely a trope that was pushed too far with that scene in Into Darkness where (forgotten character name) strips down to her bra for no good reason.

Dinostar77 wrote:

All valid points. From my perspective its sci-fi and an hour to switch off from normal life, so i would like some eye candy on my scifi show please.

Acceptable request - especially as it's likely that cosmetic surgery and augmetics would probably be pretty advanced by that point in the future.

I don't really like how most episodes this season have been generic action episodes with a little bit of serialised plot ticking away in the background.

Christ this episode was bad. I stand by my assertion that the writers know nothing about sci-fi and possibly dislike the genre.
Non of it made a lick of sense. Just take the attack on the Veridian by Book's ship. FFS did they not say that this was a fully armed battle cruiser? So Book's smaller ship was able to take down ALL its weapon systems? See Id buy that if it was a one-time deal. We got one shot to do this and then our shields are fucked. But no, they did repeated flybys. And the solution? To disable flight assist. What the fuck? Use the force Luke....

And the thing with Ryn. So you have ONE guy that knows the terrible, dark secret that you are running out of dilithium (in a universe that is running on dillithium fumes anyway..). You dont kill him. You put him in a salvage yard where he has ample scope to tell others or maybe even get rescued. really? And in the episode before on Vulcan, them asking was Spock so awesome because Burnham was his sister?????? Christ.....


I have no problem with the introduction of more "regular" looking women characters. But make them competent. Say what you like about 7 of 9 or Dax etc. They were highly intelligent, capable characters. Yeah they were hawt but it was a side show to their abilities. Look at the bunch of clowns on this show ffs. The guys on the show remain all dreambois though. Mostly.
The black woman up front with with cyborg face pilot. All she seems to do is constantly tell everyone about how great cyborg face is. When clearly cyborg face is having some sort of periodic malfunctions. The show seems to want to tell us how great characters are than showing why they are great.
Totally agree, when full cyborg woman or the security woman left, who gives a fuck? What were their names? What impact did they have? Fuck all. Yet there is Burnham gnashing her teeth as per usual. 

What I will say though, is the doctor has taken acting lessons, he is MUCH better than he was. Stamits too, Im kinda liking his relationship with Adira. 
Its series three, I barely know the characters and for the most part, those I do know are less characters and more plot devices than anything else.

I hate they way Michael says "The Burrrrrrrrrn".

I really liked Georgiou but she is becoming a bit of a parody of her former self.  Instead of chaotic and villainous she often comes off as childish and petulant.

It's a shame because I liked the first two episodes. I'm going to give the rest a miss.

That sounds quite conspiracy theory-ish. Weren't there rumours about this not planning to run as long as the TNG-era shows? I wouldn't be surprised if this ends with Season 4.

I'm holding out hope for Strange New Worlds.

I decided to call it a day after the first ep of season three.  Fingers crossed for Strange New Worlds, but hopes aren’t high.

That was maybe never going to be on the cards when Discovery was greenlit, because of the insane rights issues back then.