g.man wrote:I expect once we get into Marvel's Phase 4 and the prospect of New Avengers, we'll see stuff like Mexican Man and Captain China being promoted to the ranks too.
Yossarian wrote:Does Hollywood do anything for any noble reason?
djchump wrote:I'd be interested to hear how women and black people feel about representation in popcorn stuff like WW and BP.
Get your placard out and walk the streets then.Dark Soldier wrote:Kids should watch Moonlight and not BP bro
Aye, that makes sense.tin_robot wrote:From an entirely unrepresentative sample of two, my teenage daughters didn't really rate Wonder Woman all that much. I think the only person in my family who thought it was a positive representation of women was me. The issue being that, having not been brought up on an island of Amazonian women created by a (male) God, they didn't relate to WW at all. The fact she was a woman didn't change the fact that she wasn't really anything like them.djchump wrote:I'd be interested to hear how women and black people feel about representation in popcorn stuff like WW and BP.
Have they had a look at the new Batgirl run? I quite liked what I saw of it, but that's cos I've always prefered the local-hero level of stories over the "save the city/world/universe/multiverse" level.tin_robot wrote:They've found quite a few superheroes in comics that they do like, and relate to - my eldest adores Ms Marvel, my youngest thinks Squirrel Girl is hilarious - in part I suspect because both are characters who have (beyond the superpower thing) lives that reflect their own in one way or another.
True. More of everything would be nice.tin_robot wrote:Wonder Woman leaves them cold however. There seems to be a view that the key to representation is simply to have the relevant sexes and races on screen. Whilst I guess that's a helpful start, it's a long way short of the destination.
Yeah, that's my main stance for a lot of things these days. A lot of the time I don't really need to have an opinion on subjects.tin_robot wrote:(I can't comment on BP as I haven't seen it yet, and have no real frame of reference to comment on it even if I had.) ...
tin_robot wrote:Wonder Woman leaves them cold however. There seems to be a view that the key to representation is simply to have the relevant sexes and races on screen. Whilst I guess that's a helpful start, it's a long way short of the destination.
djchump wrote:Yeah, that's my main stance for a lot of things these days. A lot of the time I don't really need to have an opinion on subjects.(I can't comment on BP as I haven't seen it yet, and have no real frame of reference to comment on it even if I had.) ...
JRPC wrote:What on earth are you both on about? I hope you're not suggesting you need to be black to get why BP is a big deal and to get all excited about it.
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